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  <title>Feminist misogyny and good television</title>
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  <description>I&apos;ve been thinking about &lt;span style=&apos;white-space: nowrap;&apos;&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://marphod.dreamwidth.org/profile&apos;&gt;&lt;img src=&apos;https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png&apos; alt=&apos;[personal profile] &apos; width=&apos;17&apos; height=&apos;17&apos; style=&apos;vertical-align: text-bottom; border: 0; padding-right: 1px;&apos; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href=&apos;https://marphod.dreamwidth.org/&apos;&gt;&lt;b&gt;marphod&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&apos;s claims that I&apos;m a hypocrite.  Specifically, he can&apos;t understand how I love some media where the characters are grossly misogynistic (e.g. Mad Men), but can&apos;t stand others (e.g. the Dresden Files or Asimov).  (&lt;b&gt;Disclaimer:&lt;/b&gt; I&apos;m relatively early into both Dresden and Mad Men.  I reserve the right to change my opinion, &lt;a href=&quot;http://ragnell.blogspot.com/2007/04/more-dresden-files-posting.html&quot;&gt;as this blogger did about Dresden and feminism&lt;/a&gt;.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyway, I&apos;ve written long essays in my head to answer this, but really it comes down to the catchphrase I&apos;ve seen on bumper stickers: &quot;Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.&quot;  I don&apos;t care if the male characters are chauvinists; it&apos;s a major character flaw, but I &lt;i&gt;like&lt;/i&gt; my characters flawed.  Keeps &apos;em interesting.  What I care about is whether the women are actually people.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The thing I love about Mad Men is that the women are exquisitely real people, living in a horrifically sexist era.  Yes, the men treat them terribly.  I&apos;m not defending those men at all, or saying that their era justifies their behavior.  The thing is, I don&apos;t have to live in the men&apos;s heads; I can look at what they&apos;re doing, and all the insecurities and frustrations tangled up with their misogyny, and I can look at the women, and all the ambitions and desires tangled up with their socially constrained roles, and I can see that they&apos;re all brutally human.  I love it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Whereas when reading the Dresden Files so far, I don&apos;t see any real women.  If I want to give Dresden the most possible credit, I can say that it&apos;s like Dr. Horrible: both are fundamentally first-person stories, and the person narrating them is utterly and obliviously misogynistic.  As a result, in the narrative that their protagonists tell themselves, the women &lt;i&gt;aren&apos;t&lt;/i&gt; people.  They&apos;re types: sultry bad girls, innocent do-gooders, vulnerable cops who put up a tough facade.  Because these boys (I hesitate to call them men) have no idea that women are actually people, they make their women into stereotypes of femininity.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, I&apos;ll grant their creators this: there are certainly many, many men out there like that.  And I&apos;m willing to grant that it&apos;s possible that if I spent enough time in the male worlds of Asimov or Butcher, I might see enough glimpses of the author&apos;s own perspective to be assured that they&apos;re not as chauvinist as their characters.  But as long as they&apos;re tying me down into the narrow perspective of their protagonists, I&apos;m not reading about real women -- or if I do, it requires completely reading against the text.  While I &lt;i&gt;can&lt;/i&gt; read against the text (I&apos;m a feminist Biblical scholar, after all), it gets exhausting after a while.  I&apos;d much rather watch and read things that do the work of making their women people for me already.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(I could continue this to talk about why I love Gossip Girl -- which is all about the women -- or why Aaron Sorkin infuriates the hell out of me sometimes.  But that&apos;s another essay.)&lt;img src=&quot;http://sinope.icons.ljtoys.org.uk/mi/dot.gif&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; alt=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=sinope&amp;ditemid=814897&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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