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posted by [personal profile] etana at 04:45pm on 25/07/2011
Couple of things:

1. Why the scare quotes around survivor as a descriptor? It's a common adjective used to describe folks who aren't viewing themselves as victims of assault and/or trauma. In fact I identify as a survivor, not out of some need to attain socially-correct linguistic status, but rather because I thrive in spite of what has occurred in my life. Make sense? Please help me understand why that's a negative and worthy of scare quotes?

2. I didn't read this article as geared at survivors at all. I believe that our personal experiences provide a lens through which we view things, written or otherwise, and perhaps that's what's happening here. Rather, I believe this post addresses the social inequalities that do in fact exist between men and women and how men can help be better allies to women with regards to respect of personal autonomy. This is important regardless of whether someone is a survivor, victim, or not.

And if you claim inequalities do not exist between men and women, then we have not much else to talk about - considering it's a fundamental position of how I and allies working to built sexually empowered yet safe and consensual spaces operate. Not only that, but privilege exists within ability, socio-economic status, race, age, etc.etc.etc.
 
posted by [identity profile] snarke.livejournal.com at 05:21am on 26/07/2011
"Scare quotes?" I'm sorry, but there's no such thing as "scare quotes." Quotation marks are just that: indicators that the person writing is referencing something originally written (or spoken) by somebody else. The use of quotation marks in this message is not intended to frighten anybody. They are used (the first time) to indicate that I am referencing somebody else's text. I used them again because I am not willing to take responsibility for using the term. I think it's silly.

AlwaysWaiting quoted the term the first time to indicate that she was specifically calling out a word used by Sinope. However, afterwards, she dropped the quotes because AlwaysWaiting was perfectly willing to use that term herself, and did so.
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posted by [personal profile] sinope at 11:19am on 26/07/2011
I'm sorry, but there's no such thing as "scare quotes."

I'm sorry, but there is. It's a slightly-informal term for a specific rhetorical use of quotation marks, in which they distance the speaker from the term used; as the Wikipedia article notes, they appear (by that name!) in the Chicago Manual of Style and other formal references.

My original post included both the words "survivor" and "abuse." By using the phrase "'survivor' of abuse," AlwaysWaiting indicated specific dissatisfaction with the term "survivor."

AlwaysWaiting quoted the term the first time to indicate that she was specifically calling out a word used by Sinope. However, afterwards, she dropped the quotes because AlwaysWaiting was perfectly willing to use that term herself, and did so.

No, actually, she didn't. "Survivor" only appeared within scare quotes in her comment; elsewhere she used "abuse victims," which is a term with different connotations.
 
posted by [identity profile] snarke.livejournal.com at 12:39pm on 26/07/2011
Oh, dear. I'm sorry too. I'm very sorry that the phrase "scare quotes" exists in this world. My Chicago Manual is the 13th, so it doesn't contain that reference.

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